Clients from Hell (Photography Services)

While clients choose their photographers, I believe in photographers choosing their clients as well. There are photographers who will do anything for the sake of money but there are also some who are more into art (of course, require to make money as well but not desperate). I belong to the group who chooses his clients and thus able to reduce the number of problems. This is probably the reason why many people say artists are poor people.

    Types of clients I would avoid:
  1. Have to photoshop every selfie before uploading
    Nothing is wrong with the character of this group of people. It can be their style, hobby or just obession with the images they want to portray to their viewers. However, professional advanced editing requires extra money due to its time and effort. This editing is normal for portrait photographs, especially prewedding shoot, where couples may need 20 to 30 professionally touched up photographs to put into their wedding albums. However, for event shoot, there are hundreds of photographs and (1) very few clients can afford and are willing to pay for editing them. Besides, people who are used to "photoshopping" every photograph before uploading to their social media accounts are most likely to be using some free phone App (application) and they have long assumed it is easy to edit photographs and thus (2) belittling the effort and time required.
  2. Lack of trust / insecure / secretive
    If a client does not open out, there will likely be communication problems in near future. Insisting in getting an estimated number of photographs that she will be receiving for an event shoot shows that she does not trust the photographer in doing his best during the shoot or she values quantity over quality.
  3. Very budgeted
    Everyone has a limit in her spending power. In many cases, the budget for photography services is overshadowed by other expenses, which is unfair to photography. I emphasize on the quality of my work and thus I'm targeting clients who can afford to allow me to maintain the standard of my work. If a client asks for discount for photography, it is likely that she does not appreciate the photographer's work a lot. Photography is an art but many people simply need someone to take photographs for them. If a photographer values his work and effort, having such client approaching him will lead to nowhere. From my experience, clients who are generous tend to not give too many unnecessary problems.
  4. Ignorant or over-confident
    If a non professional photographer talks like a professional photographer less the knowledge, it is going to be tiring for the photographer to communicate with her. There will also be many unforeseeable problems like wrong expectations. A photographer has to be "loud" and firm to control such client. I do not like to boast nor try to prove that I'm better than others.

I have nothing personal against them though.

For example, there was one lady who approached me for her actual day wedding shoot. She was actually comfortable with my rate even though there were "photographers" who were charging less than half of what I was charging. While chatting, she boasted about her knowledge in photography and criticised some of my work. Soon, I ran out of patience to entertain her ignorance. I thought she would get the hint but she approached me again and told me how her husband-to-be had complimented on my work and that they wanted to engage me. I continued to ignore her messages as she tried her luck again for the second time a few days later. I suspected she was trying to bargain over the rate initially.

I have also rejected a few clients after they have accepted my rates due to their insistence in getting an estimated number of photographs that they would receive for their events. The number of photographs for event shoots depend mainly on the activities and guests, and often beyond what photographers can do. I always make 101% effort and I expect clients to trust me.

I have done filtering work in order to reduce problems. Since I do not go for "budget clients" who are only looking at prices, clients who have approached me tend to truly appreciate my work. Furthermore, I have tried to be very detailed in my service agreement. Of course, some clients are lazy to read despise highlighting to them regarding the importance - to elinminate their weird expectations.

Case 1: Private portrait shoot (boudoir)

The first time a client was dissatisfied with my photography services was due to the number of photographs she received, even though we had agreed on just five final photographs with advanced editing. The rate was quite low as I was simply trying to test the portrait market and thus she was actually a "budgeted client" (although many "photographers" were charging much lower than my rate even at that point of time).

It was when I was new to shooting for clients and I thought I could accumulate some experiences. This client was asking for a boudoir shoot and I agreed too early to take up the project without interacting more with her. She was weird and seemed to be skeptical of people. I could only see a small number of her photographs in her Facebook profile and they were taken many years back. When I asked her for more recent photographs, she sent me two similar ones that were taken by her friend, which she called it a "photoshoot". When I asked her when they were taken so that I could roughly judge her looks, she refused me in a shocking "tone" like "does it matter?" and I could see she was hesitating to give me more information about herself. I was unable to communicate a lot with her before the shoot.

    There were plentiful of obvious reasons why there was a "low quantity" of photographs given back to her for the two-hour shoot.
  1. I had to set up the place
    It was a terrible timing (near noon time) and the sky was probably clear, such that very harsh light was entering the studio. Besides, I had to use the backdrop for more varieties of photographs - that was the purpose of booking a studio. I had to draw the curtains to block the harsh sunlight and since they were poorly maintained, I had to even find clips to secure some parts that could not be closed. There was a glass door next to the backdrop that didn't have any curtain to cover up and I had to find something to block part of it.
  2. I had to set up unfamiliar lighting equipment
    I did bring my speedlites along but since there were some splitting of light through the curtain and especially the glass door, I decided to use the existing studio strobe, which was much stronger. At that point of time, I had not tried working with any studio strobe before and the radio trigger the staff passed me didn't seem to work. Eventually, I used my speedlite to fire the strobe in slave mode. I had to go down to ISO 50 and around F8 or smaller to kill off the harsh light.
  3. She wanted to print and sign a contract
    Even though she was the one who had approached me, she did not seem to trust me. So, she had to get the staff to print out the service agreement on my website with a some amendments to indicate the privacy of the photographs. Then, both of us had to sign on all pages on both copies. Of course, I also had to do a little checking of the contents since the thumbdrive was brought by her.
  4. There was a CCTV that made private shoots awkward
    I had given my best advice to do the shoot at her house. Instead, she booked this studio because it was one of the cheapest she could find. She was proud to highlight to me that the website had indicated that we would have our privacy. I was professional enough to check the surrounding and spot the CCTV. However, it seemed to make both of us more awkward. Besides, the boss of the studio was a photographer who did not have very good reputation. It was disgusting if he were to look through the recording of a boudoir shoot for "free show".
  5. The staff entered two to three times
    As much privacy as the studio had offered to users, the staff came in to take things two or three times. Of course, both of us paused due to the awkwardness.
  6. Restricted angles
    It was a big rectangular layout studio. One long side was actually full length glass while the opposite side was occupied by equipment. The curtains were made of reflective material that didn't cover the entire glass, leaving a gap at the bottom. For boudoir shoot, the reflective material would kill the "soft" feel and besides, the gap at the bottom was ugly with some light coming in. Therefore, we weren't left with too many angles to shoot.
  7. She could not differentiate between right and left
    She had issues with her sense of direction (in both English and Chinese Mandarin) although she had her driving license. It made directing her extremely difficult.
  8. She was an awkward person with very stiff body
    I thought she was rather too self-conscious, which made her worry a lot about her poses. Her body was stiff. Even when I got her to lie down normally like how she would laze around at home, her postures were weird. It was difficult for her to get any good posture.
  9. She didn't bring along a prop
    I got her to bring along a prop, which would help her a lot since she couldn't pose. Using of a prop would make her more relax and she would definitely look more natural in front of the camera. No, she didn't.
  10. She insisted in imitating a photograph
    She had found a nice photograph of a girl laying partially on a nice ground and a white mattress. The room seemed to be located at the corner of a building with natural light coming in from two sides of windows 90 degrees apart. It was a high key photograph with very soft light somehow. After taking a few shots, I knew it was impossible to replicate the photograph because of both the setting and lighting. However, she insisted in doing it on the floor with the cushions she had brought along. The overall feel was awkward and we wasted a lot of time on it.
  11. She had to change into her outfits
    Changing of outfits required time.
  12. She told me to filter the photographs taken
    I did take quite a few shots for each pose we attempted, however, most of them were awkward either due to her poses or expression. Therefore, I had filtered away most of them and chosen the best for each pose. Given the limited time, it was impossible to give her hundred(s) of photos. I did not want to give her like five similar photographs for each pose just to make up the number.
  13. We were aiming for only five good photographs
    The agreement was that she would only pick five best photographs for advanced editing and I did not realise quantity mean a lot to her. I had already emphasized a lot about quality over quantity on my website.
  14. We ended before the booked two hours
    We had to stop earlier to pack up and she had to get changed - we did not have the full two hours to shoot.
  15. I wasn't that experienced YET
    For the price she paid for the quality of photographs with basic editing (although I wasn't that experience), it was really a good price for her. I could have insisted in communicating more with her before the shoot, even at the expense of her getting annoyed.

She paid me in full as agreed, except for the advanced editing, at the end of the shoot. However, she borrowed some money from me to pay for the studio. After I was done with the filtering and basic editing, she was displeased with the quantity of photographs.

She used example of her shoot with her friend who had given her around 200 photographs. However, the two photographs she sent me were similar and I would not be shocked if the rest of them were mostly similar. They were taken without any professional lighting and they were both underexposed. She was actually playing her musically instrument, which made her look more relax.

    She did not know the difference between the shoot done by her friend and the shoot done by me.
  1. I used professional light instead of just ambient light
    I wanted to produce soft light to make the model's skin look better and avoid causing noise on the photographs due to using of high ISO. Given the situation of an indoor place with windows covered (to avoid harsh sunlight), artificial light was required. Whereas, it took time to test both the ambient light and the artificial light just to get the correct setting. Besides, everytime the model switched position, I had to test the light again. The end result was having better lighting on her skin to make her look younger even before doing any advanced editing.
  2. We had tried more varieties of poses
    At least, it seemed to be - the two photographs she sent me were similar. We shot at the sofa, floor and with the backdrop. I could have done the entire shoot at the same spot and move 360 degrees around the model to get "360" photographs. Then, I could also shoot from different heights. Eventually, I could have given her one thousand similar photographs. I do not do stupid things.
  3. She didn't bring the prop along
    I had already planned something with the prop and it could really help to get many nice photographs, including to get her warmed up quick.

She asked for discount of $50 (the amount I loaned her at the studio) and I refused because I had already done my best. She returned me the $50 and did not want any advanced editing to be done to any photograph as she claimed she wanted to use the money to pay for better photographers.

Generally, she is not a bad person, but definitely not someone easy to work with for a portrait shoot. She is also the very budgeted type of client whom I'm not going to target.

Case 2: Event shoot (ROM)

This is the most disheartening incident because of the extra effort I have done for an old client. She was very happy with both my work and personality that she had referred a few clients to me.

This time, she personally wanted to engage me for her younger brother's ROM and she asked for a big discount. After some casual chit-chatting with her, I actually gave an open ended answer and stopped replying when it came to the money issue again. A week later, she approached me again and I hesitated before accepting her request.

The reasons for accepting her request were (1) the rate I charged her previously was much lower as I was newer, (2) we treated each other as friends, (3) she appreciated my work, (4) she had recommended me clients, (6) she and her husband were very good people, (6) her brother looked decent and nice and I assumed would not give me any issue, and (7) she did not give up after the first try to engage me.

    The things that I had done professionally and the extra things I had done as a friend:
  1. I usually would not bother with any lowballer but I gave her a lower rate and she had only booked me for two hours (my minimum booking block), which made the trip less worthwhile.
  2. The timing that she requested for me to be there was the starting time for the solemnization. If I did not check with the groom who then told me to reach 15 minutes earlier, there could be some problems.
  3. I reached much earlier and started shooting to capture some of the "behind the scene" moments even though it was not yet the official time. I did not charge her for the extra time.
  4. I was not informed of the presence of a videographer who seemed to be the groom's good friend and I did not get to communicate with him. However, I tried my best to work with him to not get into his lens and also tried shooting from other angles to avoid capturing him. Unfortunately, he did block me from the best angle during half of the solemnization process.
  5. Despite asking her for the programme outline, I was only informed on that day itself that the dad would be receiving the bride at the lobby like as if she was not present earlier on. The nightmare was that nobody informed me when the bride had left to make a round trip back. I played by ear and managed to find her dad to capture the moment.
  6. When the bride and her dad was entering the function room (the doors were congressed, together with the videographer), I made effort to dash to the other end of the room to enter using the other door just to capture the moments from their front view.
  7. Due to the fact that the original plan was to take group photographs at the park nearby under the hot noon sun, which was going to give harsh and bad angle of natural lighting, I brought along extra lighting equipment (portable studio strobe), on top of the heavy spare equipment (just in case my main set would give problem).
  8. During the shoot, my client and some of the elderly had repeatedly asked me to eat but I refused to because the couple might need me to take some photographs and I was trying hard to see if there was any special moment I could snapshot while the guests were still around. I wanted to give them more photographs.
  9. While I could idle or take short breaks when there was nothing interesting to capture, I took photographs of my client's kids as requested by her earlier.
  10. I took very little food so that I could continue with the shoot (already over the engaged time) to capture more good moments/expression.
  11. I stayed on much later to try to capture more things, even until most guests had already left. It was when my client's dad was about to drive his car over to drop me at the nearest train station, I quickly packed up.
  12. For post-production, I tried to give back as many photos as possible, including some that I did not like the background (for example, I was told to take group photographs with backlighting, although I did advise them to change location) - they were bad photographs to me but definitely good enough to show the happy faces. Even for most of the group photographs, I took insanely a lot to increase the chance of getting good photographs (everyone with their eyes opened). I even gave two of each (close up and full body) for their personal selection.
  13. It was my reservist period, which I had already informed my client before taking up the shoot, and I had to do other daily task at night after booking out everyday. I also fell sick due to lack of sleep. However, I spent time working on the photographs and managed to return to the couple very soon after reservist, which was about two weeks after the shoot. Besides, the due date was two months after the shoot, as indicated on my service agreement.

My sixth sense of an upcoming trouble came during the actual shoot when the bride asked me if I would "edit" the photographs. I sensed that she could be the type of girl who would "photoshop" all her selfies before she could post them anywhere. Immediately, I told her that there would only be basic editing.

After receiving the photographs from me, the groom messaged me to see if they could request for editing. I was horrified but stayed professional and replied him my standard rate for editing each photograph. I was not even interested in making the extra money since I thought event shoot not worthwhile to be edited with advanced enhancement because I could not pose the models, set the best lighting and avoid the crowds (their guests) or other distracting elements at the background. Anyway, there was no reply from him after that.

On the next day, I received a Facebook message from a net friend whom I had not spoken for years. In fact, we had only exchanged a few messages when I was new to portrait photography. She told me someone had posted something bad about me and she detested such poster because no evidence was included. After confirming with this net friend regarding the contents and location, I found out that the poster was the bride whom I had done a lot for and the post was located on a secret Facebook group "Budget Brides (Singapore)".

client from hell
Printscreen of the dramatic allegation post
"JTS... don't ever engage Skai Chan as ya PG if you don't wanna be tramautised.

Engaged him for my ROM and after waiting 2 weeks for my photos, I get bad quality picts of my Solemnization. All Picts were not focused and bad angle. Was so upset and when my..."

I was in a dilemma because it was a super good marketing opportunity for me and yet it was in the wrong group since I was not interested in "budgeted clients". I was sure not everyone inside was "budgeted" people as my net friend was somehow added in after her wedding and she was not a "budgeted" person, at least not for her wedding.

    Anyone with a sound brain who had seen the post could easily tell it was an allegation.
  1. The bride did not post any evidence to support her claim. She behaved just like a spoilt kid who was randomly accusing someone had killed her family.
  2. She was far too dramatic with her accusation "all picts" - not many people with common sense would buy her words. She could have thought of other ideas to accuse me or my work but definitely not say "all".
  3. Married couple who did not go for budget wedding would know she was being ridiculous for complaining when she had received her wedding photographs so fast - two weeks.
  4. She had added a screenshot of my Instagram and Facebook accounts, which would lead viewers to my work if they really cared. After viewing my work, they could easily judge the quality and see through her plot.

What I could do was to simply upload all the photographs into Facebook, write as per normal to describe the shoot, then include her accusation at the last paragraph to shock everyone and get my net friend to post the URL to the "budget" group. It would definitely backfire on her badly and the story would become an internet sensation. People would take pity on a photographer who is being wrongfully taken revenge on for refusing unreasonable demand (she was expecting free advanced editing).

However, since my client was the one paying me for the photographs, I tried to contact her to sort it out before I would do anything. She then got the bride to remove the false accusation to end her childish wrongdoing.

Anology

Imagine you are an organic fruit seller who imports quality goods from reputable countries. A regular customer buys a watermelon from you to give to her sister-in-law. You kindly put the watermelon into a nice bag and carry it home for her even though you are busy and not feeling well. Her sister-in-law comes back to request you to do a sculpture on the skin, which the effort, time and skill surpass the actual price of the watermelon by a lot, and no customer would request for. You quote her your usual price for the work and she is unhappy that it costs "additional" money. Then, she starts posting online in a "China products" forum to accuse that you are selling rotten watermelon and she has waited very long time for the watermelon to be delivered to her. She does not even post photograph of the "rotten watermelon".



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